Packaged Octave in CAE 2011
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13 years 6 months ago #5908
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Packaged Octave in CAE 2011 was created by joe smith
Thank you for all your efforts putting these packages together. I am new to FEA and your packages have been very helpful to get a system working with little effort on my part. It seems anytime I have looked at LINUX, I spend more time trying to get the software all working that I do actually using the software.
Now that 2011 is out and only available as 64-bit, I wonder if you would consider using a 64-bit Octave. It would also be nice to include some of the common packages.
Thanks for any consideration.
Now that 2011 is out and only available as 64-bit, I wonder if you would consider using a 64-bit Octave. It would also be nice to include some of the common packages.
Thanks for any consideration.
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13 years 6 months ago #5912
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Replied by Joël Cugnoni on topic Re:Packaged Octave in CAE 2011
Hi Joe,
actually, I think that the included Octave is already 64bit..
It is actually the standard octave package hat you find on ubuntu.
but I may be wrong in my assumptions as I did not compile Octave myself. Let me know how you checked that.
Concerning the missing common packages, do you have a list ?
Thanks for your feedback, it is very valuable to know what should be improved.
actually, I think that the included Octave is already 64bit..
It is actually the standard octave package hat you find on ubuntu.
but I may be wrong in my assumptions as I did not compile Octave myself. Let me know how you checked that.
Concerning the missing common packages, do you have a list ?
Thanks for your feedback, it is very valuable to know what should be improved.
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13 years 6 months ago #5915
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Replied by joe smith on topic Re:Packaged Octave in CAE 2011
Thank you for your response.
If you open a terminal and type:
octave --eval 'b=17000; x=rand(b,b); size(x)'
You will see the following message:
error: memory exhausted or requested size too large for range of Octave's index type -- eval failed
With 2011 now only supporting the 64-bit platforms, it seems to make sense to take full advantage of this with the tools.
With the 64-bit CAELinux 2010, Octave 3.2.4 built for 64-bit and running under the original QtOctave I have tested the following packages:
specfun-1.0.9
struct-1.0.9
miscellaneous-1.0.10
optim-1.0.15
signal-1.0.11
control-1.0.10
There appears to many changes to the FAE software included with 2011. It's a very nice package. I have been trying to get the new Octave running under it with the 64-bit switch, but not being a software programmer I have had no luck.
Again, thanks for all your efforts with the CAE project.<br /><br />Post edited by: joe smith, at: 2011/11/16 18:52
If you open a terminal and type:
octave --eval 'b=17000; x=rand(b,b); size(x)'
You will see the following message:
error: memory exhausted or requested size too large for range of Octave's index type -- eval failed
With 2011 now only supporting the 64-bit platforms, it seems to make sense to take full advantage of this with the tools.
With the 64-bit CAELinux 2010, Octave 3.2.4 built for 64-bit and running under the original QtOctave I have tested the following packages:
specfun-1.0.9
struct-1.0.9
miscellaneous-1.0.10
optim-1.0.15
signal-1.0.11
control-1.0.10
There appears to many changes to the FAE software included with 2011. It's a very nice package. I have been trying to get the new Octave running under it with the 64-bit switch, but not being a software programmer I have had no luck.
Again, thanks for all your efforts with the CAE project.<br /><br />Post edited by: joe smith, at: 2011/11/16 18:52
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13 years 6 months ago #5916
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Replied by Joël Cugnoni on topic Re:Packaged Octave in CAE 2011
Hi again,
actually, you seem to be right: it seems that the compilation options where not for 64bit memory addressing..
I will try to investigate on that. Actually, the best would be to check that the Octave package maintainer for Ubuntu is aware of this and make sure that he enables 64bit support for the next Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (this will be the next base for CAELinux 2012).
Joel
actually, you seem to be right: it seems that the compilation options where not for 64bit memory addressing..
I will try to investigate on that. Actually, the best would be to check that the Octave package maintainer for Ubuntu is aware of this and make sure that he enables 64bit support for the next Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (this will be the next base for CAELinux 2012).
Joel
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13 years 6 months ago #5931
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Replied by joe smith on topic Re:Packaged Octave in CAE 2011
They may be waiting on the Octave group to make it a standard rather than keeping it experimental. Again, not being any sort of software developer and looking at the problem as a user of the tools, it appears one problem with Octave is coming up with standards that would work for multiple computers. From what I have read, much of the lower level software that Octave uses is not free (if you are looking for performance). Maybe as 64-bit PCs become the norm, this will be less of a problem.
Finding what versions of support files work with which version of the main tools and are built with what version of compilers is a nightmare for someone like me. Currently I am happy to see anything just work reguardless of perfromance. Haveing a stable snapshot of compatible tools like CAE provides is really a time saver in that users don't have to spend countless hours trying to get the tools running. You have done a great job!
I attached a screen shot of my system running CAE 2011 in a VirtualBox under Windows 7, with an older version of Octave with 64-bit indexing enabled.
Finding what versions of support files work with which version of the main tools and are built with what version of compilers is a nightmare for someone like me. Currently I am happy to see anything just work reguardless of perfromance. Haveing a stable snapshot of compatible tools like CAE provides is really a time saver in that users don't have to spend countless hours trying to get the tools running. You have done a great job!
I attached a screen shot of my system running CAE 2011 in a VirtualBox under Windows 7, with an older version of Octave with 64-bit indexing enabled.
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